Herbert keen to see Hamilton become champion in '25: 'The perfect scenario'

Charles is going to beat him hands down..zzzzzz

Is that your best impersonation of Nostradamus? It's not very good.

I will, don't worry, Game off (its way past your bedtime)-x0.

Watch and learn 44-0xLegend

Your opinion, and that is fine!

"...a bunch of anti-British disgruntled Max fans"

I don't feel addressed here tbh...

You don't need to feel that. It's how others find you. You don't need to agree with it.

Tin foil hat time.

sure you go ahead and put your head in the ground.

If the alternative is the crap you're peddling, then it would be preferable.

Next you'll be telling us the Earth is flat and aliens built the pyramids.

Complete time he is bashing Max, and he do this long enough some other will start believing it.

Is that your longest reply so far? Haha!!
The day you start believing me is the day you might actually be right about something for once in your life.
Follow me and trust in me, oh little troll of limited intellect.

so much time wasted on me, hahahaha who is stupid here.

Not all my comments are about AD'21.
But I will bring AD'21 up as much as I want. And the more trolls like you cry about me doing that, the more I'm doing to do it.
Grow a pair and find a way to deal with it that doesn' involve salty tears falling onto your dress.
I am somewhere. Right where I need to be. You don't like it, you go somewhere else. I am free to mention AD'21 as much as I want.
Next year you can tell me it's 2026 and that I should move on.
Nothing will change. Deal with it. Ignore me.
Max was given his 2021 title by the same people who broke the rules and cheated the sport to give it to him. That's what matters.
It's like giving a boxer a win and calling in fair because his trainer cheated with the hand wrappings or modified the gloves.
Even if the win stands, it's fake, it's cheating and it's illegitimate.

I'm happy in the knowledge that Max was actually unable to beat Lewis fair and square to the 2021 title. He literally couldn't do it and needed outside help from 4 different sources. :)
Max will never be a match for Lewis in equal cars in a fiar, clean fight. I think Max knows that which is why he drove dirty in 2021 and needed cheating and rule breaking to win.

But your comments are always about the same thing, Abu Dhabi 2021 and stolen 8th title.
so grow a pair and move on it is 2025 nothing gonna change, 2021 is Max his first world championship.
now go somewhere and cry about it.

Not necessarily. But it does take someone who has voluntarily dealt with trolls for years, to know one.
You are one of the more stupid one's I've come across. But there are many village idiots like you, so you're not alone.
You are of very limited intelligence and incapable of making any posts of substance. It's because you know you're dumb and can't mingle with the adults, that you instead have to choose this path. What a torrid existence.

Troll, well it takes one to know one, I would say
troll.

Completely different, Herbert is NOT a referee. You want to use that analogy then Herbert is not even a linesman but more of a forth official on the sidelines.

The race director saying these kind of things you would have a case and I would agree as for a forth official nah that's just fishing for an excuse.

Even the 4th official saying this would be very very problematic

Also Herbert as a stewart saying this is wrong, Herbert can manipulates a race!
and by saying these things (Lewis his 8 title is not the only thing he is saying) he shows his bias as a Stewart

He most definitely IS a referee as a steward!

Amazing how they can whinge at this after a race director broke the FIA's own rules to gift Verstappen a fkg world title!!!

And they cry into their dresses because a part time steward has an opinion.
You can't make it up.

"Which Max fans? I dont know and for which the 21 season and AD'21 specifically was not one of the best (if not the best) F1 experience in their lives. For me it certainly was and I still revisit it regularly. I think I know all reaction video's (from both sides ?) by heart by now. "

What do you mean 'which Max fans'? Virtually all of them.
I believe many Max fans wish Max had instead won the 2021 title himself instead of it being gifted to him illegally because rules had to be broken to make it happen. And that they were broken because his own team cheated by influencing the race director to break those rules.
Just think if Max had won that title on his own, on merit, instead of it being given to him by someone else, how much easier things would have been. No arguments or debates about AD'21, no stain on Max's career, no non-Max fans calling him #fakechamp or #humanerrorchamp. No calls of cheat for RB and race manipulation/corruption towards the FIA.
A much easier life I'm sure you'll agree. You're sick of AD'21 being brought up as as many Max fans. I'm sure you just wish things could have ended differently with Max winning it legally, with no cheating an on merit. But that's not what happened.

From my point of view, I say that if Max was EVER going to win the 2021 title, this was indeed the best way it could have happened. By cheating and rule breaking. The knowledge that Lewis actually had Max beaten in the end but the FIA (and RB) couldn't face Lewis winning yet another title. So the race was rigged. It wouldn't have mattered who was in Max's seat, the same result would have happened.
I much prefer the AD'21 ending to Max beating Lewis on merit.
For sure, I'll take AD'21 every single day over that.
Now I get to upset Max fans with the truth that their boy was not capable of beating Max on his own and needed outside help from two corrupt entities.

" You seem to be under the impression that you still bringing it up in a negative weight has any meaning or weight to it at all, but I think you'll be disappointed. Noone cares, but I just dont understand how you can dwell in the past like that. It won't change anything and noone cares."

As a Max fan, I don't think you have an idea just how wrong you are.
Of course it has meaning. I bring the uncomfortable truth to your very doorstep. You can't deny it with anything meaningful.
The truth, that being the evidence and the facts, always carry weight.
What carries no weight are the pathetic denials and sad excuses brought forward by Max fans in some desperate attempt to protect the validity of Max's illegitimate title.
You don't speak for everyone so don't presume you do.
I don't dwell in the past. I am very present. But I bring up AD'21 as a choice. The very fact that you are here now trying in some fashion to dissuade me from brining up AD'21 betrays the fact that by mention of it does bother you.
And I cannot count how many others are like you. Sick me bringing it up, bothered every time I do. People would much rather I didn't and instead forgot about it.
AD'21 is an uncomfortable topic for Max fans, as it should be.
It shows their driver failed to win the title on merit and needed outside help from entities willing to break the rules and cheat in order to grand him an otherwise unwinnable title.
It bothers Max fans because they know, on this occasion, I am right in my arguments. I have all the evidence I need to back me up and there is no Max fan walking this Earth that has better evidence to show me I'm wrong.
Max fans know what happened and how it happened. Let them be happy Max won by cheating, I don't care. I know they wouldn't be accepting of AD'21 if Lewis had won that way. They would be the one's 'crying' and not letting it go. They'd be reminding Lewis fans of it every chance they got. And I believe fully, you would be one of those.

"Wow, okay! ? The intelligence is coming across beautifully in that comment... "

Nothing to do with intelligence. In fact, I would question yours if you took that literally, rather than its actual intention, which was a flippant, sarcastic comment to provoke a reaction from you. Guess it worked. Max fans are easily tricked and triggered.

"Not true that I only dislike him due to his opinions. I just think stewards should be impartial and any suspicion otherwise should peovoke reconsideration regarding their position."

You are not the arbiter on what is considered 'too long'. Too long for you perhaps, but not in the absolute.
Well, you can think what you want about stewards. But the reality is, that none of them are impartial in their opinions and the ALL have their opinions and biases whether they air them or not.
At least with Herbert, they are being aired. Same for Warwick and Luizzi to name but two others (who took no action on Max for indiscretions).

It bothers you that I make such coherent arguments doesn't it? I think this is the root of many Max fans problem with me. That I'm not some dumb one-liner troll like iamlegend. But that I dislike Max, criticise him and can back it up with a modicum of intelligence and ability to reason my opinions in a detailed and educated manner. I'm sorta blowing my own trumpet here a bit, but let's not beat about the bush. I'm not necessarily always right, but when I am, I can be devastating for trolls and those who don't have the smarts to argue properly and constantly bring bad arguments. A smart troll if you will. The worst kind.

Do you think I'm wrong about AD'21? Do you have the same arguments that all the other desperate Max fans like to try on?
The any/all argument? The 'forgetting about the SC pitting on the same lap' syndrome? The influence Wheatley brought to his good off-track friend Masi? The cover up from Red Bull post race, which the FIA then adopted in their lying and deceitful report?
I can back ALL of that up with actual evidence.
What is the counter-argument that brings better evidence to beat what I have? Because the usual arguments fall dead in the water.
When Max fans accept the truth, I'll shut up about it. That's the deal.
Beyond that, I am free to bring it up as much as I want to.
No-one will convince me not to - although I would take a healthy financial package to do so :) So if you're wealthy, send enough my way and you'll never hear AD'21 from me again. Send enough and I'm gone entirely. :) I am up for bribes.

"If you have proof of them making similar comments as well while they were on the job as a steward, I wouldn't mind seeing them go as well. Its simply not done in my book and explained multiple times now why."

I don't believe this is your stance. Convince me otherwise.
I think if Herbert had criticised Lewis, lets say about his age or whatever and then said 'I like to see Max win a 5th title', you wouldn't have a problem with it. I think you'd defend Herbert from Lewis fans who would criticise him.
Just as Brundle was defended by Max fans when he praised Max, then similarly trolled when he criticise Max. Another person who in F1 is expected to be impartial.

Expecting impartiality and non bias from race officials is futile.
Herbert, Luzzi, Warwick, Connelly etc. All think what they think, whether we know about it or not. Herbert could have kept quiet and allowed his opinions to affect his stewarding (something we have no evidence that it has).
Surely then it is better to hear his views. Cos now you have an excuse when Herbert is on the panel that gives Max his next penalty.
Mind you, the Max fans don't need an excuse to say the blame for everything at the door of the Brits.

"It's not quite an obsession, I just enjoy bringing it because Max fans are uncomfortable with it and they whinge"

Which Max fans? I dont know and for which the 21 season and AD'21 specifically was not one of the best (if not the best) F1 experience in their lives. For me it certainly was and I still revisit it regularly. I think I know all reaction video's (from both sides ?) by heart by now. So no, not uncomforrable, quite the oppositie. You seem to be under the impression that you still bringing it up in a negative weight has any meaning or weight to it at all, but I think you'll be disappointed. Noone cares, but I just dont understand how you can dwell in the past like that. It won't change anything and noone cares.

"But it's not true. Britain, I'm sure, has it's fair share of imbeciles and traitors who support Max. No nationality is perfect."

Wow, okay! ? The intelligence is coming across beautifully in that comment...

Your story about Herbert is simply way too long. Not true that I only dislike him due to his opinions. I just think stewards should be impartial and any suspicion otherwise should peovoke reconsideration regarding their position. And sure, that should go for Connely and Warwick too! If you have proof of them making similar comments as well while they were on the job as a steward, I wouldn't mind seeing them go as well. Its simply not done in my book and explained multiple times now why.

"You can't make it up that some people are still talking about / are being obsessed about AD'21... "

Why would you need to make it up, when it's already real?
Why shouldn't people still talk about it.
Max fans bring up Silverstone 2021 when it suits them.
They refer to the past all the time.

If I'm obsessed or not, who really cares? It's not a crime.
If I admit to being obsessed would it mean that you'd shut up acting surprised the one of the biggest corruptions in recent F1 history happened just over 3 years ago?
It's not quite an obsession, I just enjoy bringing it because Max fans are uncomfortable with it and they whinge, just like you have. That is reason enough for me to keep that AD'21 hammer handy at all times.

Who else is talking about it btw? You said 'some people'. Can you introduce me? Oh wait.. I know... it's Max fans. They still talk about it in response to me. Yeah they love to tell me their ignorant delusions about it, pretending they know the rules and facts, when all they do is make up the same old excuses as the next Max fan would.

"As you are still speaking about Masi, why wouldn't others have the right to talk about Herbert. "

That's a question, and thus needs a question mark. (I'm in my grammar teacher mode today).
No-one said others don't have the right to talk about Herbert. I didn't anyway. Nice to know you recognise my right though, despite complaining about it.
The problem isn't people's rights. It's this hive-mind of the Max fan cult that sees Brits in general as all being Max haters.
But it's not true. Britain, I'm sure, has it's fair share of imbeciles and traitors who support Max. No nationality is perfect. Same reason there a Trump supporters walking the Earth and people who think the Earth is flat.
The other problem is the hive mind cult implying that Herbert is the sole arbiter in F1 when decisions don't go Max's way and he is rightfully punished for his actions.

"that my opinion on Herbert has very little to do with ANYTHING he has done as a steward before, so Mexico...I dont even care!"

Good for you. He was a Brit before he was a steward, so any issues you have with Herbert would likely stem from his nationality and that, as a Brit, he has dared to be critical of the chosen one, Verstappen.
That makes him not only marked for life, but pre-judged in any actions he may take as a steward that don't go the chosen one's way.

" I don't think it is appropriate AT ALL how he speaks about what he dislike about Max, what he takes issue with, that he hopes Lewis wins the title.this season etc... "

This was not said before he became a steward though. This was after, when you already had made up your mind what you think about him.
Well, I'm sure if any other stewards were doing podcasts and other type of interviews, we'd hear their views too. I'm sure there are stewards out the who root for Max. But people aren't interested in hearing about them. I'd love to hear Derek Warwick, Gary Connelly and Vinantonio Luizzi interviewed. Max seems to get away with an awful lot when they are stewarding.
Johnny Herbert can speak about whatever he wants. As long as it doesn't affect his stewarding, it's fine. And there is zero proof that this is he case.
There have been times when Derek Warwick and Gary Connelly have been stewarding races where Max has forced drivers off and not been punished for it. Do you agree with my view that they are therefore pro-Max? Especially considering Warwick owns a Honda dealership and RB run Honda engines.

Also, if Herbert had done no interviews and said nothing to anyone, he would still have those same views. But you wouldn't then think of him as you do now. Imagine how many stewards are in this position where we don't know their views.
Herbert goes not generally pan Max all the time. He has been very complimentary of Max many times. But also critical of him when it IS warranted. Can you name a time when Herbert has been critical of Max when there is no common sense reason for him to have been?

Furthermore, had Herbert been doing these interviews and podcasts and been praising Max instead and saying he hopes Max wins in 2025, I will guarantee that you wouldn't have a problem with him airing his opinions. You will be grateful for the support.
In that respect you are having double standards.

"That is unheard of as an active steward or active referee in any sport for that matter"

They should definitely interview more race stewards and even the race director. Imagine asking Masi who he wanted to win before AD'21.
Herbert is active in these activities on social media, perhaps he is unique in that. You should only be concerned about Herbert's views if they affect his stewarding. And as I said, there is no proof of that.
If Herbert wanted to unjustly punish Max, he has 3 other non-Brit stewards who can over-rule him. So every time Max is punished when Herbert is a steward, just remember there are 3 other stewards whom as least 2 are agreeing with him, that you are completely ignoring.

If you are of the opinion that people who sometimes act as stewards should not be interviews or air their views, then that's another matter. You can't pin judgement on Herbert in his capacity as a steward, simply because he is has not stated he hopes your driver wins the championship.

I mentioned Luizzi, who has officiated at races where Max forced drivers off track and no punishement came.
He has also partaken in podcast and interviews. Such as this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaElKFS4Oa8

Also Derek Warwick, steward and Honda dealership owner who has officiated races where Max has gone unpunished for his actions in 2021 and more recently Austin 2024.
Interviewed 5 months ago here:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQp5UclkHuM

Herbert is not alone in this. Just saying.
So, perhaps, not as unheard of as you may have thought.

Stewards don't sign contracts that excludes them from being interviewed. They are allowed to do this.
Your problem, I believe isn't that this takes place, but rather the personal views of Herbert that you don't agree with. So you decide that stewards should not be interviewed.
Again, if Herbert was talking up Max and perhaps even criticising Lewis, I think you'd be just fine with it all.

Jeez man. Do something about your English.
Waist? Really?
OK you know when a person puts a belt on, to secure the trousers? The belt goes around your 'waist'.
When referring to energy or rubbish/trash, it's 'waste'.
Confusing for you I know.
Secondly, a single 't' in pity is quite enough. You don't need two. Save your ink.

I have given you no reason to pity me. You're the one not faring well in your own arguments. Largely because I point out all the holes in it.

You can't say you don't hate me and expect me to believe you any more than you don't believe that I don't hate Max.
So if I can be wrong about you, surely you can see that you can be wrong about me. Easily done isn't it?
I criticise and insult Max, you do the same to me.
In your world that translates to 'hate', you've pretty much made that clear. So explain to me how it's not hate towards me from you?

'waist' Haha!
Before you do it... there is no such word as 'looser' either.
It's 'loser'. You 'lose' an argument, you don't 'loose' and argument. You can loosen a garment though.
Don't fret, I'll keep you educated. With me you learn lots of things - you're welcome.

nahh i don't hate you, hate is a waist of energy. I do pitty you.

Aaah as effervescent and friendly as always. Hello ther Laughatmyknees.

You can't see hate in the mirror.
My posts on here are because of how you Max fans all behave and have behaved for 4 seasons. You made me what I am. Enjoy your creation. :)

I don't even have to hate Max to say what I say. You hate me more than I hate Max. And you talk about irony. Haha! Get a grip on reality lad.

Just look in the mirror, buddy. Your hate against Verstappen and his fans is beyond pathetic. And you talk about toxic trolling fanboys, the irony.

Yes, totally true. A very toxic fanbase. In all my many years following F1 and all the great rivalries, I have never come across a fanbase full of so many toxic trolling fanboys.
I guess us all having to listen to their tin foil tales on social media hasn't helped much, but still, some of these people have no capacity for rationale or reason, much less that so many of them can't string a paragraph together.

It was switched on AD21 and off at Silverstone = 0

A pity it wasn't switch on in Abu Dhabi then. Maybe you can borrow it off him.
He's not using it and you need one.

He broke the rules, so his husk of a body wasn't working very well on that day. Too tuned in to the dulcet tones of Wheatley's voice, no doubt.
I bet they had a sauna together afterwards and played 'where's the soap'.

Michael Masi has a brain!

What's also amazing is they all turn a blind eye to Warwick as that throws the British bias back in their face and the little well known fact of him owning a dealership that supplies the same engine that their team gets supplied with and they seem to think that Herbert is the sole steward at any given race totally ignoring the fact that there's another 3 that make the decision aswell.

Max fans are a funny bunch of characters.

You can't make it up that some people are still talking about / are being obsessed about AD'21...

As you are still speaking about Masi, why wouldn't others have the right to talk about Herbert. Funny thing, as I said in another comment as well but you didnt address, that my opinion on Herbert has very little to do with ANYTHING he has done as a steward before, so Mexico...I dont even care!

Its about his conduct in the media and away from the circuit. I don't think it is appropriate AT ALL how he speaks about what he dislike about Max, what he takes issue with, that he hopes Lewis wins the title.this season etc... That is unheard of as an active steward or active referee in any sport for that matter...I have seen people.here deny that Herbert IS a referee and that he is part of a team... Thats ludacris. Stewards are refereer as they interpret the action and pass judgement + penalties...that is the very definition of a referee. I have never seen a basketball, football or tennis referee openly speaking about they favoritism and dislikes...ever!

Its like a tennis umpire saying before a Federer - Nadal final (ahhh...good old times) that Federer is their favorite player and they hope he wins, while also stati g that they dislike Nadal's screaming and his superstitious quirks...

Yes, that sounds ridiculous...because it is!

Perhaps he learned from his mistakes and will try harder this year. And then there is the possible race ban for Max as an option too.
Still, a steward should not talk like this.

And a race director should not break the rules of the sport to gift a driver a world title that he didn't deserve or earn.

1 single steward could never make enough of an influence to change who wins a title.

Don't you have a common sense mode?

The problem is that there is not just 1 as you know.
There were 3 at least. Mayer, Warwick, and Herbert.
Give me a break. You are so stupid.

What are you smoking today? Jeez. I swear you get dumber by the day.

You're literally making my argument for me !

I've been weeks and weeks pointing out that there is not just one steward.
But Max fans like you insist on talking about Herbert as though he is they only decision maker. They hate on him because he's 25% of a panel of stewards, and as such, can be easily overruled if he want to dish out an unjust penalty.

What do you mean there were 3 at least? For what? Breakfast at Tiffany's?

There has been quite a few races where Max has either forced a car off track or gone unpunished for something else, where Warwick and Mayer were stewards on that day.
I can tell you that Warwick was present at Austin 2024 when Max forced Lando off and got no punishment

Mayer was a steward in Brazil 2021 where not only did Mercedes get a DQ for 0.2mm but Max got away with forcing Lewis (and himself) waay off track.

Trust me, there are other examples.

Also, you should know, Tim Mayer is American. So if you're trying to pin this on the Brits, you just laughably failed - yet again, I might add.

Every time you call me an idiot, I always manage to immediately show that you, in fact, are the ignorant clown.
When will you learn?

Honestly man, give it up, you're out of your depth.