Windsor sees Verstappen being 'a normal driver': 'What is happening at Red Bull?'

@NoMikeyNo Impressive. You've gone from armchair F1 expert to detective and therapist all in one comment. And all of that just because someone disagrees with you about a racing driver?

The paranoia is something else. You've convinced yourself I'm an entire team of people, liking my own comments, having conversations with myself—just because the points hit a little too close for comfort. If I'm really as irrelevant and "mentally sick" as you claim, why are you spending so much time writing essays about me?

But credit where it's due. Your outburst shows exactly how rattled you are. And if someone calmly presenting a different take on F1 shakes you this much, maybe it's you who needs a break from the comment section.

lol, you're using the wrong account buddy 😂

Every time someone mentions alt accounts, I think it is a bit far-fetched, but alas, seems I was wrong

it's not far fetched , it's a common practice among trolls so that they don't stand out as mentally ill .In his sick mind he thinks that using multiple accounts which agree with him will somehow validate his idiotic opinions , that's the point in liking his own comments as well. But I repeat myself , you have to be a sick individual to use so much of your time for something so pathetic.

Ah, “lol, wrong account”—the last refuge of someone fresh out of arguments. You just got handed a full breakdown and your comeback is something a 12-year-old says when they’ve got nothing left in the tank. If I’m really so off base, you’d respond to the points. But instead, you’re busy inventing conspiracy theories and ducking the actual debate. Classic case of someone who can’t handle being out-argued, so they resort to playground-level comebacks. Do better.

still on the wrong account Legend .

I asked Vegans best friend what it thinks about what Vegan is doing.
This is the answer I got, seems spot on to me.


Psychoanalytically, someone creating multiple accounts on platforms like X to agree with their own comments (sockpuppeting) likely seeks validation and control due to a fragile self-esteem and fear of rejection. This behavior may reflect narcissistic needs, a fragmented identity, or unresolved relational traumas, with sockpuppet accounts acting as a controlled, idealized audience. It could involve defenses like projection, splitting, or omnipotent control, possibly rooted in early experiences of inconsistent caregiving. While providing temporary relief, this isolates the individual from authentic connection, reinforcing underlying anxieties. Therapy could explore early relationships and self-concept to foster healthier ways of seeking recognition.

you see , exactly what I said in an earlier comment . The thing I don't understand is why users who have been here for a long time still interact with this sick creature . I mean of course , if you ignore him, he will create new accounts and try to pretend he's someone else but even those are so obvious , the ideas are the same even if he uses a different tone or different wordings , it's the same leech . That is why I've asked for a block option, it's the only way to protect yourself from this type of mentally unstable people and keep the comment section healthy .

You still being cluless ? ROFL.

I love how you're so twisted up in knots that you fools think I have the time or the inclination to be setting up multiple accounts. For what reason would I need one?

So I can criticise Max? I say everything I need to say right here on this one. It's enough.
You idiotic, ignorant trolls aren't even worth setting up another account for. And if I did set one up, I dunno wth I'd do with it. Pretend to be a Max fan? :)

Jail should know better than to think me and Vegan are the same. Seems he's as thick as a donkey's dongler too.

When the fk are you lot going to actually start treating this an F1 blog instead of vomitting all over it with youre tirggeres rhetoric?

Both you and J41L might be the same person.
And Jail himself had another account on here last month and used it to make threats.
Honestly, you behave like a couple of clueless goons and have the audacity to trolls others for how they behave.

you having multiple accounts its not a theory mate, it's a fact , you've just confirmed it a few hours ago with one of your clone accounts . Doesn't even matter anyway , people here already know you're a mentally sick individual , you've exposed yourself . Otherwise I'm not doing anything except treating you like the piece of trash that you are until I get banned , enjoy it , it's a once in a lifetime experience . Or maybe not 😂

Hi Vegan 👋
Don't forget to put on your bib this time before you start drooling 🤤😘

its not just Vegan, it's 44-6xLegend , Slowracer and probably a couple more , the guy is logged in with multiple accounts at the same time . Sometimes he tries using a different tone on each account or a different format to his comments to "hide" himself , but the ideas are the same and he ends up eventually writting in similar fashion . I think he expanded more than he handle , quite funny to be fair 😄

SlowRacer is Vegan, one of hers many other accounts.
The rest of the usual suspects may also have several accounts. This becomes evident looking at the way they are written and how some of the usual suspects suddenly vanished from this blog.
One has to be pretty sick to do this kind of stuff and thinking people won't figure it out.

Ah, the classic “Hi Vegan” deflection—when you’ve got nothing left to say, just pretend everyone who schools you is the same person. Cute. Don’t worry, J41L, nobody’s trying to steal your imaginary leaderboard. But if confusing identities helps you avoid addressing actual points, then hey, keep dodging. Olympic-level mental gymnastics like yours deserve a podium too.

You don't know who has what do you?
How many accounts to you have? Are you and Jail one in the same? Validating each other like a 69.

@Z at thos point it's obvious you're the one getting it wrong .

Easy to agree with yourself, are you in a ecochamber

How can I understand when an F1 expert like Pete Windsor has change his opinion in just 7 days like a politician? :)) Anyway I ve been expecting that Max will win even if he is driving a ” mediocre car” like Marko has said a couple of month ago..

Agree max is ordinary. That makes the disqualification GOAT AKA Lewis the original paper champ.

#KeepTrying #RentFree #IgnoranceInRealTime

You can do better thn copying all these double accounts.

# mission complete.

You're confused mate

Says the cheater 😂

More triggers than a gun store.

How come none of your Discord buddies are here to support your posts with 'likes'? Are you on your own with this one? Going rogue?
Are they here on different accounts again or are they actually being smart and wise enough to stay away from all of this? If it's the latter, it shows you're the dumb one in the group.
Who is cheating btw?

"More triggers than a gun store"

Says the 74+ comments guy 🤭

And that bothers you why? There are none of my comments on your Discord swingers place.
And I'd have far less comments if trolls like you weren't here all obsession over my attention.

Hey... got a little reveal for ya while I wait for you to carry out your threat... ready?.....

"discord-social-gpblog-full.zip - 4.98 GB (5,349,686,361 bytes) "

You can stick your fake zip files to a place where the sun never shines.
Let's talk seriously for a little moment.
Simply spreading threats like yours is a crime in your country. Whether they are false or true doesn't change the fact you will have a tough time.
I'm surprised you're not aware of this, having supposedly worked for 2 lawyer companies.

But aside from the legal aspect of your fairy tales, there's another aspect to consider; imagine for a single moment if one of the many people you've threatened with your nonsense were to get hacked by someone who has nothing to do with you. Who do you think the investigators will turn against first? You really have to be nuts to put yourself in such a situation. You didn't look further than the tip of your nose my dear.
All this in a desperate attempt to scare people you don't like, to satisfy your urgent need for attention and control. Unfortunately for you, your action not only didn't work, but through sheer stxpidity you've put yourself in a very disadvantageous situation that could backfire on you.

This is the last time I'll discuss this with you.
No need to reply because I won't read it anyway.

Yes, lets talk serious.
'one of the many you have threatened'? And who are those individuals? Can you name them?

You threatened me first and you did it twice. It was only because you backed off that I did. If you believed I was faking it, then you wouldn't need your 'serious' lecture and you wouldn't need to suggest computers would be hacked - something that I told you has fk all to do with this - just a stupid panicky assumption on your part.

You made the stupid move when you threatened to dox me by leaking my Facebook details (something I know you could not possess). Do don't act all the innocent. You are as guilty as I am for all the same things. You don't even know what country I'm in.
Yes I worked for two law firms but neither were in the UK. Most of my life has been spent away from the UK. Left it when I was 17. You just needed to be shown how stupid you were to threaten to dox someone and then to feel what it's like to have that put back on you. Not comfortable is it? 2 days ago you threatened to leak information yet again.
When do you ever learn?? Either stop targeting me with your BS posts or leave me alone. Because right now you're the loose cannon here and your behaviour here, especially towards ms, is just you thinking of yourself.
Basically, the TLDR is stop being a d**k around me.
You target me like I'm nothing to worry about.

You want to put a lid on all of this? Fine. Stop targeting me and stop threatening me. I have no reason to do anything unless you give me one. Twice now you've put it on the edge. And for what? Some instant gratification when you troll me? Worth it? Was any of February's BS worth it?
Bloody idiots.

Are you saying that Max is extraordinary for getting more points than, Pérez & Gasly & Lawson ...
Wow you're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Max is like we have read , he is a normal driver like a Yuki .

As expected it flew right over your head, maybe try your chatgpt, grok or deepseek. Paste it in there and ask it to explain it to you...

Yip, too many people that aren't interested in the sport and prefer to troll. You included. I instead prefer to comment on what I actually saw in the race and occasionally precent a mirror to some of the luney toons in this comment section.

I don't think Lewis is currently a great example. He lost to Nico and George. And while Ferrari has made changes to the concept in his favour, he isn't close to Charles.

By the way, was the complaining from Lewis then also music to your ears, especialy his messages in his last stint?

Particularly the Max fans who worship and protect him, by trying to bring down and troll or insult any who have criticism.


Isn't that exactly what you guys are doing woth Lewis?


Yes we cannot be sure he maximized, but also depends how suited the RBR was the weekend to the track and the cars ahead just a bit more suited.

Last year RBR went on hard tires often and ran well when other teams rather went with mediums, Max had two new sets of Hards for the race where others had two sets of mediums. The hards looked horrible and many drivers didn't like them perhaps if Max had two sets of Mediums it might have indeed be a 4th or 5th position for him.

Mate he finished 6th and thats because he had luck SC, you're saying his hard tyres the same tyres that Lewis and Lec had and they made inroads on them , was the issue.

Just be honest like Lewis has been saying g he is not being good enough right now and will focus on doing better at the next race .

Why did Max get lucky because of the safety car? Please explain in detail and don't forget to include which drivers had still to make a stop before the safety car came out, which drivers got fresher tires and how much each driver lost with their pitstop compared to Max.

But you are mirroring the loons. You're using the same phrasing and narrative. Hardly original.

I also comment on the race. But I come at it from a different angle to you and other Max fans.

What's wrong with losing to Nico and George? Max has lost to Nico too and Russell just beat Max in Bahrain. Lewis had quality team-mates unlike Max who doesn't have the balls to have team-mates of that calibre.
Lewis still has 7 titles and 105 wins.

Lewis at Max's age, in a car designed and built around Lewis will beat Max in the same car. He's the perfect example. You're comparing him now at 40 years old.
Even then he's won as many races as Max has since the Spanish GP last year and he's been in a worse car!

No, just the complaining from Max. I don't like Max, you see, but I support Lewis. So that's a bit of a dumb question.

"Isn't that exactly what you guys are doing woth Lewis? "

Nope. I'm not on here worshipping Lewis at all.
I'm criticising Max and RB. I barely mention Lewis unless someone brings him up first.

Well at least you can admit that you can't be sure he maximised. Yet people want to assume it.

I'm not bothered about Max's tyre choices. Just another excuse. If, if, if.

Watch the race.

That is your opinion, but you have nothing to show for it. Until now, Lewis was only able to beat Max in a dominant car.

Lewis has indeed won 7 titles, but unlike Max he lost 3 title, while having a the best car of the field. 1 to Kimi (although I have to say that being able to fight for a championship in you first season is impressive), 1 to Nico and 1 to Max. Max hadn't yet lost a title while driving the best car. Especially losing out to Nico is something Max would never happen.

As for Lewis winning while driving a worse car is simply not true. That wasn't the case when he won the races. The Mercedes was the best car during the Brittish GP and Belgian GP. So, although a good drive, it ain't like he did something heroic. And by the way, Lewis won 2 races and Max 3 races.

Is it my opinion? Here's me thinking it was Al Pacino's opinion.

Lewis beat Max in an equal car, but the FIA took it away from him by cheating and via corruption along with RB. Something you are not big enough to own up to.

Max hasn't had the years Lewis has had and the team dynamics between Mercedes and Red Bull are a world apart.
Mercedes fields 2 cars equally. RB field 4 cars and in the main team, only one is focussed on and only one has a car custon made for his particular driving style.
A luxury no-one else has.
He faked his way to a 2021 title and the 2022/ 2023 and part of 2024 titles were done in a car with an illegal intertial brake valve that allowed the car to grip like a bastard in the corners and have no understeer.
Find me a radio call from Max from race 4, 2022 to Spain 2024 where he complained of understeer.
Since Spain 2024, he does nothing but complain of it.

The Mercedes of 2024 was a worse car thanthe 2024 Red Bull. Lewis finished ahead of Max 5 times.
I know when that happens, Max fans put it down to the car - and when Max wins it's the driver.

Lewis in his 2nd race for Ferrari got sprint pole and sprint race win over Max, and in the last race, finished ahead of Max in a car that he hasn't got to grips with yet. Max has been at RB for 10 years.

Yes for you the Mercedes is only the best car in one race only and only the one's it finishes ahead of Max in. You cannot comprehend that the driver might play a role.

2 races? I count the Chinese sprint race. It's a race, because it's called a race.

As for the valve, we had the discussion before and I provide you with several moments that Max complaining about understeer in 2022, 2023 and 2024, but I guess you forgot. But here are 2, 2023 Hungary and Abu Dhabi. And there are more. There is no proof that the Red Bull had an illegal part on the car, like there is no proof that Mercedes used illegal parts in 2021.

The Ferrari 2025 is a better car than the RB21. I know you will say it isn't, but it is. And stating that Lewis manage to was able to win the sprint race while still getting to grips with the car, doesn't really say a lot. Especially not when he got disqualified in the main race. Heck, Max won his first race when he started with Red Bull mid season. And he even wasn't able to test is to the extend Lewis was with Ferrari. Again no solid reason to think Lewis would beat Max in equal machinery.

With regard to the race wins, I know that you would that, but it isn't the same. Otherwise I have to say Max won 5 races (sprint race in Austria and sprint race in Miami).

Nah, most comments in this thread show a complete different story then what you are claiming.

Of course @Jem you’d say that,easier to dismiss the points than actually address them. Just claiming “most comments” say otherwise doesn’t make it true, it just avoids engaging with what was actually said. If disagreement = lack of knowledge in your book, then maybe you’re not here for discussion just validation

Saying the opposite doesn't make it true either. Just look at the sheer amount of comments, even after a race review you don't get as many comments.

Volume doesn’t equal validity, Jem. Just because a bunch of people pile on with the same bias doesn’t suddenly make their take correct. If we judged truth by comment counts, we’d be crowning keyboard mobs as F1 experts. Maybe focus less on how many replies there are and more on the quality of the arguments—because that’s where actual discussion lives

Fact remains that most comment lacked knowledge about the sport. Either willing or unwillingly. But luckily for them a lot of their comments have been deleted.

Be honest, is half what was posted in this tread was said about Lewis, would you still reply to me in the same way?

Come on JEM, disagreeing with you or not praising Max doesn’t mean people lack knowledge about F1. Not everyone views the sport through a Verstappen-only filter and that’s perfectly valid.

And yes, I would reply the same way if the driver being discussed was Lewis. It’s not about who it is, it’s about how people engage with the discussion. If people were bending over backwards to excuse a tough weekend for Lewis and dismissing all criticism as “ignorance,” I’d call that out too.

You mention a lot of comments were deleted. Sure, but that doesn’t automatically prove people were clueless. Sometimes it just shows how quick some are to silence views they don’t like.

If your definition of an “informed comment” is one that agrees with you and praises Max, maybe you’re not really after a discussion, just validation.

"Sometimes it is to silence views they don't like". Sure, if that is your take.

You don't have to agree with me. I think however that trolls, whether it is against Max or Lewis, are silly people that most of the time say stuff that doesn't reflect any knowledge of the sport. And that is what has happened in this tread.

Fair enough JEM. I actually agree with you on one point — trolls are silly, whether they’re targeting Max, Lewis, or anyone else. But not every critical comment is trolling and that’s where we probably see things differently.

There’s a difference between calling out nonsense and shutting down valid opinions just because they don’t match your own. Some of the deleted comments may have been over the top, but lumping all criticism under “trolling” feels like an easy way to avoid engaging with the substance.

We’re all here because we care about the sport, even if we don’t always see eye to eye on everything.

I don't think all are here because they care about the sport. Some are just here to troll.

Theres always the few, on both sides .

Agree on both sides.

Don't tell me you're still here NoMikeyNo.
A few hours ago you were crying to the admin to give you a block feature.
Perhaps you needed that to save you embarrassing yourself. Too late now. I'll be mentioned in your every post. I'm rent free in so many places these days.

Triggered trolls like you are wins for me.

I'm still crying for that block feature so that I don't have to read your 44 year old virgin shit comments here on a daily basis you leech !

Hahaha! How am I a leech? In what context? :)

Yeah pussy out as so many before you have. Can't stand the heat you create. And now you want to run away like little girl.

I just love seeing trolls boil over. Revise your 0.9 times table. :)

To be fair NoMikeyNo, you don't have to read Legends posts any more than he needs to read yours, or better yet if you haven't read them you won't feel the need to reply to them 🤔

yes I do Herr Flick ,if someone is targetting my posts in order to antagonize me . I'm here to discuss F1 with normal people , not to play mindgames with lunatics , this guy brings negativity and a bad vibe on this site . I dont want to ignore his replies to my posts, I want to block him so that I won't have any contact with this toxic leech . If I can't block him I prefer to get banned.

With you it's always the other right? Never look at yourself it's always ''the other'' you're always the victim, and or heroically defending yourself against unjust that only exists in your world..

@44-8xLegend
16 April 2025 at 08:27
+ 33229
You are a clown, no matter how you put it you are a clown. The type that thinks that the world resolves around the clown.
I mean if you get criticism, the other party is a troll, Rb fans or something like that bottom line the problem is always somebody else, that might have worked when you where a totdler in the adult world people in general don't like that. And then you get called out for it, deal with it for once..

Oh here we go. Mr Minty is back, once again showing us how triggered he is.

Another personal insulting Max fan. How many is that we have now?

If I get criticism, it is trolling. This is an F1 blog, not a 44-8xLegend blog. You should be discussing F1 and praising or criticising drivers and teams instead.

You telling me they're not trolls? Do you think your post isn't trolling? Do you even know what trolling is?

What 'problem' are you referring to?
People act like toddlers here and thus get treated like that.
I've been dealing with trolls voluntarily for 49 months on here. I manage, thank you.

You seem to be having some trouble dealing with things yourself. I can take the criticism, I practically invite it. But that trolls are so easily triggered and then criticise me because of their fragile emotional state, makes them troll.
Get a thicker skin mate. It's all I can tell you lot.

And what's with
"@44-8xLegend
16 April 2025 at 08:27
+ 33229" ??

The '@' doesn't do a thing. Just start with "44, blah blah blah blah " (obviously substituting the words blah blah with your own trolling BS).

44-8xLegend
17 April 2025 at 04:42
+ 33235
I'm not triggered at all Clown, sorry to disappoint.
No this is not a you blog but you're trying everything to make it that way.
I was talking to you, and i was telling you you have a problem owning up and always start blaming others, an response claiming others are trolling does highlight that point.

So the problem is you, and much of the replies in this topic support that.

I also think you should fix you own issues before calling others thin skinned, i mean 90% of the insults you said to someone are things i would be very carefull to say to someone in real life let alone online. But i guess we have different standards..

But hey you can always complain to the mods right? (yes you're denail means nothing to me)

Which part of that post is me and which is you? :)

Ever heard of quotation marks, minty?

A3 said he left, but I'll bet they've enticed him back in already.

What I don't get is how these Max fan trolls create this atmosphere, troll, mock and insult, then complain about those who push back on their behaviour.
I've never quite been able to work that one out.

@Slipstream

Spreading lies as usual 🤥

Max needs his rocket to win. Isn't that what you've all been saying about Lewis? Yeah well suck on this.

Can't see anything to suck on so not sure what you are getting at, you are saying Max needs a rocketship to win, then he must be really good because he won Japan without a rocketship. On the flip side been dry for Lewis ever since his dominant car is gone.

Have I ever been away? You're trippin'

"What are you on about we didn't slither off to that discord place mate"

Dear VeganWarrior/SlowRacer,

Make sure you know what you're talking about when you mention that discord place you love to mention.
Just to avoid to make even more a fool out of yourself then you already are.
FYI, Joost was never a member of that place. 😘

Vegan's point was that we've always been here.
You and your cohorts decided you couldn't hack it here any more and scurried off like rats up a drainpipe.
But your Discord can't be that good if you need to be here all the time acting like a (insert 4 letter insult here).

Cute how you now defend the one you were spitting on not so long time ago. Remember?
What you now do is bootlicking, fits you perfectly 😘

I'm enjoying how you guys do everything to make fools out of yourself. Keep going Einstein.

But you're okay saying that i was away from here not posting ? What gives you the right to make such claims and I not mate 🤔

Only people hiding are the bunch with their multi accounts. Maybe use gpt to write your posts in a different way then it will look more original.

You've done nothing but troll.
Maybe if you chose a different path, you'd get better responses.


I suggested this last year to you and you said why should you, so then why should others as well. It won't end ever, there was a no mockery of Hamilton for a short while but the anti-maxers like you said that Max fans deserve same ammount of years of trolling as Lewis fans received, this isn't even long ago, but now you expect others to follow a different path.

Yes why should I? I already had tried and it lasted 2 weeks before a couple of Max trolls stepped in and kicked off again. So from then, I didn't think it was worth the effort.

Others don't have to stop trolling. But it would be nice if they also stopped whinging about being trolled back. You get back what you dish out.

If you're happy to continue this road, then that's cool.
But don't complain. You chose it.

Yes Max fans do deserve 3 years of it. I'd even say 5.
But it doesn't mean they have to suffer 3-5 years of it.
They could change their behaviour. But lets be real, theres more chance of seeing a condom machine in the Vatican.

Done with these people J41L.

Waiting for the hide option so I don't have to read their stupidity anymore and can discuss with sane people.

Who from here put you through what? Adrie? Myself?

Don't worry about me, I'm having the time of my life watching a bunch of fools embarrass themselves, priceless 👌

"#unstable"

Very good self-diagnosis you just made. Congratulations!

And to put it your way dear wafty-cranker;

#carryon
#embarrassingyourself
#I'mlovingit
#😘😘😘

Haha, seriously?
I don't even remember what I said, it was that important.
Something like him and Roy were the voices of reason one time? Well that is true, they were.

Now Adrie has been brainwashed by you idiots and you've made him act like you do.
I told Vegan 2 weeks ago, that bridges were burned and Adrie is done as far as I'm concerned.
I just hope he realises the trouble you can get him in.

You think J41L is sane? This guy is putting you at risk mate. The sooner you work that out, the less sorry you'll be.

When are you going to carry out your threat? Still waiting. Don't disappoint me.

@wafty-cranker 16 April 2025 at 06:25 + 105

That's your argument? Because it was done to you, you do it to others?
1. Those now here, did not do it than;
2. where is your learning curve?
3. this excuse prevents you from ever to change anything . . . ever

1. New one's are here to pick up the baton where they left off. And still it's left to non Max fans only to push back at their trolling.

2. I could as you that. Have you learned nothing in a ll this time?

Nothing will change here. Max fans will be who they are until he's long gone from the sport.

"When are you going to carry out your threat?"

I don't need to threat people unlike you 44-6 and your imaginary friend 8-ball.
Unlike you, I don't need several accounts to have a talk to myself in a desperate attempt to make myself look smarter.

What's going on multiple accounts wafty-cranker?

Still no answer to this?
"Who from here put you through what? Adrie? Myself?"

@44-8xLegend 16 April 2025 at 08:18 + 33216

“We tear down the driver who is supported by the trolls, this isn’t about Max, this is about his fans”.

And with that statement you’ve said it all. Being on a blog, just to piss people off instead of celebrating your driver/team? It the heart of the problem.

We have stopped harassing Lewis out of the blue. In fact those ‘we’s’ have long left the blog. You NEVER stopped harassing Max. You hid your comments behind new veils: ‘valid criticism’ and ‘just my opinion’ and ‘stop glorifying’ and be ‘honest about Max’.

We should abide by your rules and then – and only then – you would let go of your behaviour; “You of all people should understand that”.

Yeah, I understand about the chicken and the egg. They won’t stop cause you don’t stop and you don’t stop cause, they . . . , etc.

There is a difference though: we tried. I defended you to a point that it actually cost me on this blog and elsewhere. We called, we talked. I apologized numerous times and went against advice of others. In the end, nothing worked, you did not change a thing and now you have given yourself over to your trolling side, thinking you have won.

Won what? There was nothing to win, there was normality to be obtained. You failed and why?

I think you’re a narcissist. People must march to your tune or else. The tenacity coming with the disorder has most likely brought you much in life. The downside of it - often need admiration and attention to feel worthwhile, total control to feel save – has hindered you here.

It is what it is.

I don’t wish you anything bad. I feel sad for everything that has happened and don’t like my own role in it. That also is what it is. You do have destroyed something beyond repair, something that was dear to me and from that there is no way back.

I do hope the Blog will introduce the hide-user option soon. I don’t want to be confronted with your posts anymore.

Take care mate.

[EDIT]
Skip the 'mate'. At the point of letting go and then I find this. How facking dare you!

“Oh and btw, you might want to have a word with your Jaily friend. He's been threatening to dox once again. Hopefully he's bluffing again because if he isn't, the fallout will hit you too, more than others I think. So you might want to care about that and nip that in the bud.”

I will say this once:
1. Don’t know who “your Jaily friend” is;
2. I don’t know anything / have no connection whatsoever of any doxing wish/attempt;
3. I have no influence whatsoever on before mentioned doxing;
4. I can’t nip anything in the bud; I’m flying solo here as I’ve ever done, except for a short period of time when I was connected to Discord;
5. nothing will hit me, but my name and address . . . there is nothing to be found of me, I have almost zero footprint.

However, thanks to my IT-friends (military/law-‘abiding’ background) I have your name and address for a good many years now.
I WILL ONLY USE THAT INFORMATION FOR ONE THING. If any doxing EVER hits me, I know where to find you.

It will not end well for you, nor me. By that time I will be beyond caring.

Save this post for the police David. If anything goes wrong, you’ll need it.

Great post! Well said.

Yeah you don't need to be Stephen Hawking to realise they were using said device it's only the cult that don't (want to) believe they used it.

Now the ordinary driver that is Max Verstappen is being unveiled for ALL to see.

No we are the cult, they are the church :)
Hehe.

Yeah, Max exposed. And look at that picture on the article. That's worth framing.

Wait, some were trying to make me believe Newey was the difference maker...but now its the 'mythical' brake valves? 😄

Maxael Jackson? :)

"All I need is the air that I see" - The Hollies :)

And the FIA made sure there no proof as well.

We can't be having another F1 scandal.

A lot of scandal in F1. But non as bad as spygate and my friend slow down for me to win a title. The scandal that haunts Lewis legacy. #Disqualification #cheating. #paper

They go hand in hand. 1990 McLaren.

Not everyone has to brake like Max to win or be quick.
Not everyone has to drive like Max to win or be quick.

So many F1 champions over the years employed different driving styles to Max. You seem to think Max's way is the only way (the truth and the light?).
It isn't.
Why pick out Lewis from the crowd?

Yeah Max has been 10 years at RB, Yuki has had two races. Wnat a surpise he's behind Max whilst driving a car designed for his team-mate. Gee I wonder how that happens.

I'm so glad you're not driving Joost, because some things you come out with make it seem like you're asleep at the wheel.

Don't waste your precious time on these hopeless creatures, let them drool a little.
They'll crawl back into the hole they came from.
The toad's drool doesn't reach the white dove. 😉

As I said, no need to worry about me, I'm having the time of my life watching you bunch of fools embarrass yourself.
Please carry on!
Go

Your hole is on Discord. Whilst you dream of another you can't go into :)

I love that you think this is about Max. That's hilarious.

No you're not. You're triggered a/f. That's why you issue threats. You're boiling over.
Taking a break from Discord are ya? Nothing interesting there? :) Or have you stopped telling everyone there what you're cooking every day whilst they feign interest for the umpteenth time.

Max is never helped by such things. :)

it was a SC not a VSC , same issue as Legend here, you watch the races on flashscore ,what a coincidence . And yes it did help , but that RB21 performed like an Alpine or a Haas in Bahrain so still a great performance by Max . Also he had the longest stint on the medium tyre and managed to do an overtake on the last lap . GOAT stuff.

PS: damn , you two guys are even commenting simultaneously , thats crazy 😂

So youre saying the safety was part of you Max was amazing argument/Post.
the "ordinary" version of Max is still the best driver on the grid. Bringing that tractor to P6 after being relegated by his team to P20 was amazing.

Cause it simply looked like you didn't watch that part if the race you completely omitted the main reason Max ended up 6th mate.

"it was a SC not a VSC"

That got me lmfao too. 😂
'larious coming from a self proclaimed F1 expert 👌

these trolls are not even watching the races , they check the results and comment like it's football . I don't know how you guys can engage daily with such creatures in these comment sections , it's like going round in circles and talking to walls .

I said SC and you claimed I was wrong.

Weren't you leaving in a flood of tears?
Goat stuff my arse. Goat manure more like.
6th for a hero demi-god sucks more than you to up to Max.

You're reply to us simultaneously, duh!
You're already burned out here mate. Have a few days off or change your way. Oherwise you're leaving yourself open for another meltdown. You're too sensitive to handle me.

nah , you're too stupid to be handled by anyone mentally sane , to have a conversation with you one needs to be a masochist . I have met plenty stupid trolls in the F1 community but you're their king . I will leave whenever I want , I only said goodbye cause I expected to get banned faster.

Nah, stick around. You are comedy gold mate.

I can have very decent conversations. But you have to deserve them and earn them. You wouldn't know where to even start.

true , the only thing you deserve is for people to shit all over you worthless ,lying , deceitful and spineless worm .

Mate you need to clamp down before to burst a blood vessel

So youre saying the safety was part of you Max was amazing argument/Post.
the "ordinary" version of Max is still the best driver on the grid. Bringing that tractor to P6 after being relegated by his team to P20 was amazing.
Cause it simply looked like you didn't watch that part if the race you completely omitted the main reason Max ended up 6th mate

9 tenths slower than the fastest car in clean air , 5 tenths slower than the fastest car in dirty air . Your reading and comprehending capabilities of the english language are quite low, ain't it so ?and yes, compared to the McLaren that RB21 is a tractor . The Ferrari's were 3-4 tenths faster than Red Bull in Bahrain .

Maybe not a tractor, but also not a good racing car...which is the most important!

9 tenths? What, every lap? Hmmm That would put Max 52.7s off the lead at the end. Yet he was 38s off.
Let me guess the difference of 14s was the brilliance of the demi-god that is Max, right? :)

Oh I don't struggle with the English language mate. I'll out-do you in that department in my sleep.
The issue is your arguments. They suck and they are flawed. This latest one of yours, using numbers you plucked out of your rear end, doesn't add up.
Yet you sit here desperately trying to convince people how right you are.

Max compared his 0.5s to McLaren. He was hardly referring to Norris who had a 5s penalty. You compare yourself to the leader. Max saying he had a 0.5s deficit to the pace of the leader.

It's not a tractor, it's a Formula 1 car. I suppose every car except RB in 2023 were tractors then.

Just accept that Max no longer has his car advantage as is getting beaten by drivers who are capable of beating Max. OrdinaryMAX. I want that nickname now :)

with the risk of being banned and I have to say that I actually wish the admins ban me so that I don't have to interact with such enormous stupidity ( no block button unfortunately ) , you've managed to convince me once again that you are a ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARD , the kind that you can only find in the shittiest holes of the F1 community and with you here this comment section will always be a toxic shithole . Goodbye 😂

yeah , you trolls enjoy sucking off each other here , this place ain't for me . I explain this idiot above the same thing for the past 2 days and he is still bringing his lies , ignorance and toxicity to the table . Adios !

You could just leave. No need to wait to be banned. :)
There is a 'delete account' button in your profile.

If you didn't display such enormous stupiditiy yourself by choosing to troll all the time, you'd have had a lot easier time.
You can call me whatever you want. Water off a ducks back. You're the one running off and crying.
See you back on your next account then?

Try a different approach next time. You never know, it might work. Oh and don't be so reactive to replies made for trolls to absorb.

It is a good racing car. Just not a great one like the RB19.
Max is simply finding out what it's like to drive a car that isn't working for you as much as he's used to.

Meltdown detected.

Queen - Another one bites the dust.

You don't 'explain', you troll, you mock and you insult.
Look at you now, losing it.
If you want to explain something and get through to them, you nave to bring civility and respect.
You trolled your way through. You have no cause for complaint for how you get replied to.

For 2 days I've been telling you that there was a SC which closed the gaps between drivers , it was 60 seconds between Piastri and Max before the SC , gap which was neutralised and then it went up again to 28 seconds at the finish line during 20 laps . You have so many data analysts which calculated the race pace , plenty of graphics that you can check if you want to see it with your own eyes . How is that trolling ?I'm explaining you once , twice , three times , you still dont get it . That means , I repeat myself , that you're either a troll or a complete fucktard and I'm not interested in sharing the same section with someone like you .

Dude, seriously, just go if you're going.
You think you know better than Max and you can't do basic maths.
Get a calculator or go somewhere else.

Explaining the same bad argument over and over isn't going to make you any more right.
If you wanted a more genuine reaction from me, you shouldn't have come at me with a hammer and trolled your way through.
Maybe a life lesson for next time around? Who knows, you're never too old to learn.

ok, go fuck yourself now .

You still here? :)
At least go with some dignity. Bow your head, walk slowly away and close the door on your way out.

If I wanted dignity I wouldn't have engaged so many times with you dumbass .

https://f1pace.com/p/2025-bahrain-gp-race-pace/

Tell me, how many walls have you punched in the last 2 days? :) That mood you're in now. I did that. :) You're welcome.

I don't click on links. They might be scams. You have to be careful these days.

you're the only scam here mate . You're not only stupid but ignorant as well , you don't want to evolve to a higher level like any decent human being . Even if you dont want to click on links you can Google " bahrain 2025 race pace " and learn something about car performance , tyre deg , track evolution , driver input etc so that in the future you will not look like the useless prick filled with arrogance but lacking F1 knowledge that you are. I'm not even angry , just completely relaxed and actually having fun right now 😂 I can insult you and you can only suck my balls so that you wont lose your hard earned likes from your multiple alt accounts you little creature with no life outside this site 😂😂😂

"No Micky No, I cannot find the door to get out. Get me another tissue".

Evolve to a higher leve? LOL. Is this the level you bring? You've evolved so much that instead of reaching a Zen-like state, you troll, piss take, mock and insult. That is where your level is.
So that's the level you get from me. You deserve no more than that. And then you whinge because I've kindly brought my level down to yours. So ungrateful.

Dude, I don't care about your argument. I never have.
It doesn't even matter. Max was 6th and whinged all race on the radio. He looked ordinary.
Those are the facts.
You can fudge the numbers all you want. Nothing changes.

You can keep on with this rhetoric because you're now boiling over, but I don't have to prove myself to you or any troll. I will reply at the same level you dish out.
You want more intellectual conversations, then demonstrate you can initiate them. But you can't. Look at your posts on here.
You said goodbye an hour ago. Have you changed your mind because you so much enjoy this antagonising or are you trying to go out with a bang?

I'm no F1 cadet mate. I know enough about all those nuances and been years trying to explain most of that to RB trolls who want to put every down to Max talen and not the car.
People like you don't know how to initiate good debate. So don't pretend like you wanted it.

nope ,you're no F1 cadet . You're just my toilet paper tonight .

" I'm not even angry , just completely relaxed and actually having fun right now"

5 mins ago you were crying to the GPBlog staff and begging for a 'block' option. You're boiling over because I won't entertain your argument.

Of course you want to try and look good so you weakly try to convince yourself and other that you're 'having fun'. What you're actually having is a meltdown because you can't get your argument through to me.
Now that you've fought back the tears you're telling yourself "No.. No... I won't let them get to me. I'll hold my head up high". I get it, it's motivation. It's good for you. You need it in times like this.

Oh don't worry, you won't get a counter-reaction from me if that's your plan :)
I don't need to insult people like that. I'm 10x more effective when I don't. I don't give trolls the reaction they want. I'll leave you to be the troll who thinks everyone else is a troll.

Oh and I have one account. Sorry to disappoint you on that one also. :( Not doing very well today are you.
Don't worry, we all have our off days.

great read , now let me flush you down the drain 😂

Close your eyes and make it happen :)

#PleaseHelpGPBLog #iwanttoblock

Well you need lots of that with the s*** you've been coming out with.
Do some calculations about laptimes while your sat there contemplating what the hell you're doing with your life.

well someone had to ask for that block option , it's not me crying for it as I dont really care if i get banned or not , but I actually use the site to get some info which sometimes I share with others, I dont really care about using the chat . Unfortunately whenever I scrolled down I had to read your stupid shit in the comment section and that indeed ruins the experience, not only for the users but also for the rest that are reading the news on a daily basis . This time I said to myself , ok let me try to create an account and see if I can have some decent conversation on this comment section and change the vibe , I tried but you kept appearing in my notifications with your retarded trolling so now I'm in a situation where I have to shit all over you and your nasty ways .

No-one had to ask for a block option. If you behaved yourself and treated people as you wanted to be treated, you wouldn't need to call for it.

Clearly now you don't care, that's why you're allowing your emotions to rule your posts are you melt down.

If you don't care about the chat, then don't chat. Simple. No-one is forcing you.
You don't even have to scroll down to the comments. A little self-control is all that's needed.
No, you comment because you want to comment.
You want to troll and argue. Your name alone is for provocation.
If I trigger you so much, that's too bad for you.
Nothing I say should ruin your experience if you 're only interested in some of the articles. (which is clearly a lie as you're more interested in trolling.)

Don't worry about the rest on here. Most of the Max fans aren't behaving too well either in this RB crisis period. It's not like they are all desperate for civilised, respectful discourse.

If you wanted decent convesation, then you shouldn't have come with the attitude you did. And why come to me if you tihnk I'm as bad as you claim?
Well if you didn't troll me, I wouldn't be in your notifications now would I?
And why are you reading notificitations if you're not interested in the chat? Why even make an account? You don't need one to read the articles.
Dude, you're full of it.
Shit all over whatever you want. You won't win with me. You can't. So either try a different approach or find a way to resist responding to me.
Don't come at me like you do, then cry about it later.

I didnt come at you at all , you started replying to my absolutely normal and civilised posts . You really think that I don't know what you are doing ? You have a deep hate for Max and his fans , you hunt them in this comment sections and you start antagonizing them so that they would lower themselves to your toxic shitty LH cultist level who still lives in 2021 and has a lot of frustration inside , this is your way of coping, trying to make Max fans as miserable as you are inside . Motherfucker , you have 30k likes and you never get more than 3-4 per comment if any, basically the number of your alt accounts . I cannot even imagine how much hard work it has been to like your own comments 30k times but that's definitely not something a mentally healthy human being would do . You know that you're fucking insane right ? I hope so cause from the way you post here I am afraid for any living human being or even animal around you , very disturbing , if
you continue like this you'll end up either in a asylum for mentally deranged people or you'll probably become a serial killer , I don't see many other options for you 😂

It's weird, I'm getting more replies from you now, since you left here, than when you were here.

Sure, you really to want a block button don't you. You're enjoying this too much.

If I respond to what are truly 'normal and civilsed' posts, then you'd have had a normal and civilised reply.

I dunno mate, what do you think I'm doing?
I have no deep hate for Max. This is a narrative people like to push in order to explain my posts and make it make sense for them.
What I hate is trolls and most Max fans here have been and are just that.
Don't try to tell me what I do here. You don't have the first clue. All you have is your biased perception and assumptions.

Yeah 33,000 likes mate. Count them. Not bad for a non Max fan eh?

Seriously man. Have a chamomile tea and stop being so triggered over some random guy on the Internet.
I love the hyperbole btw. Trolls live for that, don't they? :)
#stillhere?

yep still here , I think its quite obvious who's reacting to who given that I'm the OP and you're the guy that keeps replying while being triggered .

Are you rejoicing after just this last race?

How long have you been waiting for this moment, 4-5yrs? Who the fuck is this guy??? Don’t worry about the negative comments - keep going Champ! 👏👏👏

This is what I do. :) Haven't you noticed?

What moment? Max not winning a race? Meh, we're getting used to him losing. He's getting really good at it. Consistent, one might say/

Yeah you tell him. Don't worry about negative comments. Have a lie down and an Ovaltine.

I can fully agree with that. Perez showed us how average he was and so was Albon. Yet both have shone in other cars.
So, I'd say that's because Perez and Albon, like Gasly, Lawson and Tsunoda, are all driving in the Maxmobile. A car made around Max.
Therefore Max is bound to come out on top as he has a unique driving style (that includes forcing others off track) that others aren't suited to. The car is made to assist that style.

Only now, it's not quite there. So Yuki might handle that better in races to come. Who knows.

Well, I've suspected that. Whether it is true or not nobody can say for sure. But I don't see why it would be a surprise given that he is the face of the team. The only thing I could find via Google about this is:

"Max is quite specific what he wants from a car to make it fast and that is generally a very positive front end on the car, very sharp turning. Of course, the consequence of that is it will unsettle the rear of the car and that for a driver is tremendously confident sapping," Horner told Sky Sports.

"So that's where he [Versatppen] excels," Horner added. "That's where he's able to live on a nice edge of adhesion. And he's just constantly asking for more and more front out of the car. And of course that you're always going to follow the direction of your faster driver and that leads the organisation in terms of its development."

If Red Bull want to put their focus on one driver, that is up to them. Their prerogative.
But when Max can't bring it either, they have no backup. No plan B. All eggs are in one basket.

Sorry, I don't pay any attention to Horner. He can't even be faithful to his wife, let alone be expected to be truthful. He's a PR mouthpiece for Max and nothing more.

I guess you can't read or understand much

"Max has been reduced to a normal racing driver"



What does the word reduced mean?
and if you have to be reduced to normal, then what were you before being Normal?

And for what reason does the pundit say he was REDUCED to NORMAL?

Quite different to what you said actually, so no you were not right.

"..in may of you posts claimed he is the GOAT of F1"

Wow more lies from Cramer, please show my MANY posts where I said Max is the GOAT of F1.

"Ordinary and Normal Max battling in the midfield."
If he's so ordinary, then he should be P20 every race, F1 drivers are not ordinary drivers, they are professionals, so are you saying that an ordinary driver managed to beat professionals and also become a x4 WDC when some pros can't manage winning 1? Best of all this ordinary driver is winless for 9 days significantly less days than another multiple title winner, so much for being a pro huh

That’s not what Vegan is saying.

He literally said “Max has been reduced to a normal racing driver” — meaning the aura, the mystique, the “superhuman” narrative has faded. He didn’t say Max was once extraordinary on pure talent and now isn’t. He’s saying Max always needed a perfect car to look extraordinary, and now that he doesn’t have it, we’re seeing the truth.

You’re arguing with a point no one made.

Mate calm down,the season is long and we will both enjoy the battles he will have in the midfield 👍

You should listen to @Slowracing

Uhm sure new double account, are you speaking for her? Did you also get magic powers to know what she meant with what she said in the yapping posts she made where she directly said Max is nothing but an ordinary driver.

"You’re arguing with a point no one made."
Really?
"VeganWarrior
15 April 2025 at 22:06
+ 52722
You missed this part : Max has been reduced to an "ordinary/ normal racing driver"........"Ordinary and Normal Max battling in the midfield."

Nothing about Aura, just an ordinary driver in the midfield, and not even the

Maybe try again double aggent

Mate calm down,the season is long and we will both enjoy the battles he will have in the midfield 👍

You should listen to @Slowracing

Are you my mom? You wanted to yap now what? No more yapping?

Mate clam down you're getting more unhinged by the minutes. Let's enjoy the rest of the seasons watching Max battle Gasly or Albon in the midfield. Okay mate 👌

@VeganWarrior/SlowRacer

Now you're starting to tell others to listen to what you say with your second account.
Every time we think you can't sink any lower, you prove us wrong.

Expect for the couple of your usual suspects, no one listens to what you say, no matter the amount of accounts you may come up with.

Ehhh he or she read my posts , you're not to bright are you mate .

What, not having fun? It's just an ordinary back and forth right. I say what you said, and you make up bs what I allegedly said.

Reduced means that he was made to look more than ordinary by his car. A car built around him, designed for him and by a team solely focussed on him.
Without the car putting the lap time in for him, he's not very exciting is he? The whole book of complaints came out this weekend.
Yuki hasn't whinged once.

Then you can't brake-turn any more, it must be so frustrating for Max. A team that can't make the car emulate what an inertial brake valve does - because that would be outside of the rules.
Max will have to rely on trail-braking like everyone else. Quite the difference over 2023 isn't it, when the trick car was doing all of the work.

What's with the name insults for Vegan btw? Is this you settling in to troll mode now? Another Max fan whose frustrations are boiling over?

No being ordinary doesn't make you P20 in every race. Don't be silly. He is relatively ordinary amongst F1 drivers, that is what is being said. You're making silly arguments now.
3 of Max's titles have been down to a trick car. 1 was a illegal gift. Not a brilliant track record (pun intended).

Anyway don't fret. If RB can't get it right after Spain, the FIA will make up another rule to slow down McLaren. But how do they then deal with Mercedes and Ferrari too? This might be too much even for the FIA to manipulate. We'll see.

Rambling again mate 👌

No magic powers needed — just basic reading comprehension. You're cherry-picking quotes while ignoring the context they were written in. The whole point of saying Max has been “reduced” to ordinary is that he only ever looked extraordinary when the car masked his limitations. Now that it’s not doing that, his performance looks normal — not midfield scrub, but no longer out-of-this-world either.

Also, calling anyone who disagrees a “double account” is just lazy deflection. Try engaging with the argument, not inventing conspiracies. If someone says Max is not performing miracles without a perfect car, that doesn’t mean they’re calling him a pay driver — it just means he’s like most top-tier drivers: car-dependent. And that’s the uncomfortable truth some people clearly don’t want to hear.

Now you try again. Preferably without twisting words this time.

Ah, the classic "second account" accusation — the go-to move when you’ve run out of actual arguments. Hate to break it to you, but not everyone who disagrees with you is some shadowy alt. Some of us just aren’t buying the nonsense you’re selling.

Also, if “no one listens,” why are you always the first one foaming at the mouth to reply? Looks like someone’s watching very closely for someone they claim to ignore.

Maybe focus less on inventing conspiracies and more on forming a coherent argument. Because so far, all you’ve proven is that bruised egos type the loudest

Absolutely, this was brilliantly put. Thank you for laying it out so clearly.

You’ve explained it better than most users manage to. “Reduced” doesn’t mean Max suddenly lost talent, it means the car was doing the heavy lifting all along — tailored perfectly to his style, covering his weaknesses, and inflating his performances to mythical levels. Now that luxury is gone, we’re just seeing what he looks like without the engineering crutches.

And yeah, the contrast with Yuki is striking. No whining, just getting on with the job. Meanwhile, Max is visibly frustrated that he can’t just brake turn his way out of trouble anymore. The fact that even simulating what used to be allowed would now break the rules says a lot about how far that car was pushed in 2023.

As for the name calling aimed at Vegan, it’s the usual tactic when the arguments run dry. Insult, deflect, accuse. Says a lot more about them than it does about her.

Anyway, fingers crossed the FIA doesn’t get “creative” again after Spain. But you’re right, this time, with multiple teams in the mix, even their usual bag of tricks might not be enough.

"Reduced means...."

Yeah uhm I'm pretty sure any dictionary will call bs on that description.


"What's with the name insults for Vegan btw? Is this you settling in to troll mode now? Another Max fan whose frustrations are boiling over?"

Just comparing Vegan with the best in predictions, Jim Cramer.


"Then you can't brake-turn any more, it must be so frustrating for Max. A team that can't make the car emulate what an inertial brake valve does"
More speculation...


"Without the car putting the lap time in for him, he's not very exciting is he?"

That's right, My mistake, I totally forgot about the Rocketship being on autopilot all this time, bad of RBR not including that feature into the 2nd car.


"No being ordinary doesn't make you P20 in every race. Don't be silly. He is relatively ordinary amongst F1 drivers, that is what is being said"
Is that really what Vegan said after sundays race? IDK I think she said something else, maybe ask her if she can recall through all her posts after Sunday.

"the FIA will make up another rule to slow down McLaren."

Yes because if our guy can't win then it's all tinfoil hat moments.

How do you know what they read? because they didn't even mention reading your yapping posts

You are aware you're becoming increasingly more pathetic right? Referencing your own alt AI account is a new low, even for you! 😅

I'll engage with the real accounts, or at least accounts that's been posting for a while. Thanks

Then I bid you fair well cause you're new on this blog mate and using your criteria I am better off engaging with users of my level. Thanks for that mate .

Mate you're rambling again.

Mate the user referenced my posts you're slow mate .

Try and not make your posts look too similar, it's kinda telling...

"The user" 😉🤔

Now who is slow?

How stupid can you be. Using the same word "mate" in both your accounts.
More embarrassing is the fact that she then try to explain herself using her second account.

Mate. Try not to use the word mate in your second, third or even forth account. You make it to easy for everyone to figure it out. Not very clever.

Yes it's laughable, she has to back herself with some double accounts and then at same time agreeing with them or rather herself.

LOL!!! I love it. The bitchiness. This is amazing.

Yes it bothers me so much that I need to create a new account, what should I call it? Ordinary?

Why does it bother you? It's just an opinion right?

Is it so? She can't even remember how she yapped away post after post trying to troll now she is quick to try and slow down when she is facing so backlash and lying about what people said.

Well, it is either fact or it is an opinion. Which one do you think it is?